Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

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Post by Jaeven » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:51 pm

Fun fact: The explanation that Tarkin didn't send TIEs out of arrogance actually comes from the WEG RPG. So by your logic, you shouldn't accept that rationalization. The must movie stand on its own, after all, no?

And you're using a double standard for ESB too. We know most of the rebels got away, because the Rebel Alliance is still a thing at the end of the movie. Also, we see TIE Bombers hammering the asteroids. Why bother with AT-ATs slowly crawling towards the shield generator when you can just use TIE Bombers to clear it?

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Post by Darksaber » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:52 pm

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Post by WarHawkster » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:55 pm

Jaeven wrote:
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Fun fact: The explanation that Tarkin didn't send TIEs out of arrogance actually comes from the WEG RPG. So by your logic, you shouldn't accept that rationalization. The must movie stand on its own, after all, no?

And you're using a double standard for ESB too. We know most of the rebels got away, because the Rebel Alliance is still a thing at the end of the movie. Also, we see TIE Bombers hammering the asteroids. Why bother with AT-ATs slowly crawling towards the shield generator when you can just use TIE Bombers to clear it?
I never read WEG RPG, so I don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t remember seeing any Mon Calamari cruisers, or any rebel capital ships at hoth.

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Post by Darksaber » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:58 pm

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Post by Jaeven » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:02 pm

WarHawkster wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:55 pm
Jaeven wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:51 pm
Fun fact: The explanation that Tarkin didn't send TIEs out of arrogance actually comes from the WEG RPG. So by your logic, you shouldn't accept that rationalization. The must movie stand on its own, after all, no?

And you're using a double standard for ESB too. We know most of the rebels got away, because the Rebel Alliance is still a thing at the end of the movie. Also, we see TIE Bombers hammering the asteroids. Why bother with AT-ATs slowly crawling towards the shield generator when you can just use TIE Bombers to clear it?
I never read WEG RPG, so I don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t remember seeing any Mon Calamari cruisers, or any rebel capital ships at hoth.
No, but the movie never tells us Tarkin didn't send out TIEs because of arrogance. You're using an explanation that came from WEG RPG, because someone had to figure out why the Rebels didn't get instant wiped by waves of TIEs.

As for Mon Calamari cruisers, I'd love to use an example from Ep9 to explain faults in Ep8, but y'know, we'll have to wait until 2019 for that.

At least DS is having a blast :D :D

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Post by Darksaber » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:05 pm

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Post by Rich C » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:06 pm

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Post by WarHawkster » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:20 pm

Jaeven wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:02 pm
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Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:55 pm
Jaeven wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:51 pm
Fun fact: The explanation that Tarkin didn't send TIEs out of arrogance actually comes from the WEG RPG. So by your logic, you shouldn't accept that rationalization. The must movie stand on its own, after all, no?

And you're using a double standard for ESB too. We know most of the rebels got away, because the Rebel Alliance is still a thing at the end of the movie. Also, we see TIE Bombers hammering the asteroids. Why bother with AT-ATs slowly crawling towards the shield generator when you can just use TIE Bombers to clear it?
I never read WEG RPG, so I don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t remember seeing any Mon Calamari cruisers, or any rebel capital ships at hoth.
No, but the movie never tells us Tarkin didn't send out TIEs because of arrogance. You're using an explanation that came from WEG RPG, because someone had to figure out why the Rebels didn't get instant wiped by waves of TIEs.

As for Mon Calamari cruisers, I'd love to use an example from Ep9 to explain faults in Ep8, but y'know, we'll have to wait until 2019 for that.

At least DS is having a blast :D :D
My explanation comes straight from watching the movie, and correctly interpreting the events. Your point was that I stole it from some book, and thus I’m a hypocrite. This is also not an actual argument, it’s the tu quoque fallacy. Whether or not I’m a hypocrite has no bearing on the strength of the arguments I have presented.

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Post by Darksaber » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:24 pm

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Post by WarHawkster » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:40 pm

Prediction: they will turn Han into a bumbling buffoon in Solo, who is dressed down at every opportunity by the GoT lady. Han will say “I love you” and she will say “I know” back, dumping a giant turd on ESB. Because no man can be original, it has to be stolen from a women.

Gender equality was done well in BSG, a show that could never be made today, because it featured strong males in lead roles.

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Post by Drinkinmiester » Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:17 pm

Yeah sounds about par for the course

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Post by Jaeven » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:14 pm

WarHawkster wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:20 pm
Jaeven wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:02 pm
WarHawkster wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:55 pm


I never read WEG RPG, so I don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t remember seeing any Mon Calamari cruisers, or any rebel capital ships at hoth.
No, but the movie never tells us Tarkin didn't send out TIEs because of arrogance. You're using an explanation that came from WEG RPG, because someone had to figure out why the Rebels didn't get instant wiped by waves of TIEs.

As for Mon Calamari cruisers, I'd love to use an example from Ep9 to explain faults in Ep8, but y'know, we'll have to wait until 2019 for that.

At least DS is having a blast :D :D
My explanation comes straight from watching the movie, and correctly interpreting the events. Your point was that I stole it from some book, and thus I’m a hypocrite. This is also not an actual argument, it’s the tu quoque fallacy. Whether or not I’m a hypocrite has no bearing on the strength of the arguments I have presented.
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Post by Mark_Farlander » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:34 pm

From what I see, it’s true that even Star Trek goes in this section.
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Post by Darksaber » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:00 pm



^^^^^ See what I did there? ^^^^^

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Post by Driftwood » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:29 pm

Well I have to say I'm not sure which thread is more controversial, this one, or the rebel platform release thread.

Either way, I haven't seen this forum so active in years.

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Post by WarHawkster » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:14 am

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Post by Jaeven » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:40 am

The Galactic Civil War is raging on the XWAU Boards.

Warhawkster needs to join the Rebel Alliance group to make this truly authentic though.

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Post by WarHawkster » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:39 am

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Post by Vince T » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:05 am

See thats why I didn‘t bother trying to contradict your(or other ppl‘s) points, I‘m having too much fun watching you fanboys duke it out.

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Post by Darksaber » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:59 pm

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