I need a little help with the Andrasta
I need a little help with the Andrasta
- capitanguinea
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I am a modellist and now I am trying to do a fine paint job on a firespray 31 model to represent the Andrasta. I would like to paint the twilek dancer (from whom the ship is named after). Any of you opt modder has any graphic file to make me a good reference for it? Thanks!
- Will T
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The best reference is probably going to come from the cutscenes, as that's the most detailed. But the cutscenes themselves are kinda low res, even with the new upscaled versions, and the lighting isn't great for grabbing screen shots.
Otherwise, your best bet would probably be to go into something like XWAOptEditor so you can view the individual textures. It's not a hard process, just download it using the XWAToolsDownloader, open the SLAVEONE opt then view everything in the texture pane.
Word of warning: I'd probably look at the original TG opt if you're trying to recreate the Andrasta's paint scheme. The XWAU Andrasta isn't great, IMO, and it left off quite a few of the original texture elements while also being a bit low effort with the Twi'lek nose art.
Also bear in mind that the original TG opt is a lot more purple than the cutscene render, which comes out a lot more grey looking.
Otherwise, your best bet would probably be to go into something like XWAOptEditor so you can view the individual textures. It's not a hard process, just download it using the XWAToolsDownloader, open the SLAVEONE opt then view everything in the texture pane.
Word of warning: I'd probably look at the original TG opt if you're trying to recreate the Andrasta's paint scheme. The XWAU Andrasta isn't great, IMO, and it left off quite a few of the original texture elements while also being a bit low effort with the Twi'lek nose art.
Also bear in mind that the original TG opt is a lot more purple than the cutscene render, which comes out a lot more grey looking.
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- ual002
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So, your best bet would be to grab jeremy's tools, and open the opt explorer. and zoom in on the appropriate part. I cant be sure who provided the original twilek on the side.
- ual002
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In fact, it might not be a twilek at all. I think we all probably just assumed green=twilek. This is the XWAUP not original.
- Will T
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This is exactly what I'm talking about.
It's not an assumption at all. It's really obviously a Twi'lek on the cutscene render and even on the low res original opt.
But the XWAU opt didn't recreate it. There's not really a lot of original textures on the XWAU Andrasta FG, it's mostly just recoloured versions of the Slave One FG textures. The green woman pinup is probably just something that was sourced at the time and not created from scratch. The other prominent missing detail is the pattern at the top of the hull, with the triangles and circles.
It's whatever. The XWAU Firespray is a port from the Galaxies model, and the textures and opting were done pretty quickly and easily to get it in game. The model is solid, unlike a lot of the Galaxies ports, but I definitely think any one of the XWAU members could give it a better texture pass if they were so inclined. Not expecting it any time soon, though.
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- Will T
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Haha, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't quietly hoping for that.
But obviously no pressure.
I think the base Slave One texture could be spruced up a bit too. It's inherited the weird yellow bars in the middle of the wing mount 'arches' that are in all the XWAU FGs and came from the original Galaxies textures. They're accurate for Jango's Slave One, but only Jango's.
Plus we could defintely go higher def now.
And if inspiration's an issue, the Firespray has a ton of custom paint schemes out there that would make great FG colours, now that we're not limited to 4.
Like Kath Scarlett's Marauder:
But obviously no pressure.
I think the base Slave One texture could be spruced up a bit too. It's inherited the weird yellow bars in the middle of the wing mount 'arches' that are in all the XWAU FGs and came from the original Galaxies textures. They're accurate for Jango's Slave One, but only Jango's.
Plus we could defintely go higher def now.
And if inspiration's an issue, the Firespray has a ton of custom paint schemes out there that would make great FG colours, now that we're not limited to 4.
Like Kath Scarlett's Marauder:
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- ual002
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Load me up with references. Otherwise I just go nuts on my own.
- capitanguinea
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I have just found this one... what do you think?
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- ual002
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Heh. Boobs. The facial expression is... interesting. But considering its gonna get scaled down I think that works perfect.
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Hi. ual002 has saved your image so I deleted it.
A big naked green woman is probably not the best thing to put here in public.
It was a huge image too lol But he has saved it for "reference" thanks
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Need promises. The biggest gripe with the pink textures is that the Andrasta is actually supposed to be Grey and a dark maroon shaded red.
I actually have a custom painted 1/270 Firespray to represent the Andrasta, looks similar to what I've shared here but can't seem to find a current photo of it anywhere and it's in storage at the moment due to lack of shelf space. I split the difference between the "official" FFG redesign, and the original pin up design. I would say having the option for either would be good.
Adding Kath and AOTC versions certainly wouldn't be a bad thing either.
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- capitanguinea
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I am putting effort to make a decal. It will take some time but I think I'll get the kind of texture rendering of the cutscene
Did anyone knows if any of the other Twin Suns Company craft (Vasudra, Sabra, Selu, Otana, razor starfighter escorts) has any kind of peculiar palette/skin/panoplia?
Did anyone knows if any of the other Twin Suns Company craft (Vasudra, Sabra, Selu, Otana, razor starfighter escorts) has any kind of peculiar palette/skin/panoplia?
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I put together some reference material for you. These are the best reference images I could get using AI upscaling and enhancement of the original game material. If you need more references for the rest of the ship let me know:
Andrasta original hull texture upscaled + de-noise - https://i.imgur.com/L4l4i6H.png
Andrasta original hull texture upscaled + aggressive de-noise - https://i.imgur.com/KC2DYAi.png
With the enhanced textures you can barely make out a dark blue or black head covering.
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 01 (Note: I don't think the figure is meant to be fully nude but very similar in appearance to the clothing style worn by the famous "Oola") - https://i.imgur.com/ScsOETp.png
Oola's outfit Pic 1 - http://twilekparadise.com/wp-content/uploads/13.jpg
Oola's outfit Pic 2 - http://twilekparadise.com/wp-content/uploads/101.jpg
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 02 (Note: the outline of some sort of thin sheer body stocking being worn) - https://i.imgur.com/kpZOShR.png
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 03 (Note: a closeup of her leg) - https://i.imgur.com/rd6QuDq.png
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 04 (Note: closeup of her foot) - https://i.imgur.com/uQ19bA3.png
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 05 (Note: the whip the figure is holding) - https://i.imgur.com/ltdoFQR.png
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 06 (Note: the decal artwork isn't present on the left side of the ship) - https://i.imgur.com/eSpJoL7.png
Andrasta original hull texture upscaled + de-noise - https://i.imgur.com/L4l4i6H.png
Andrasta original hull texture upscaled + aggressive de-noise - https://i.imgur.com/KC2DYAi.png
With the enhanced textures you can barely make out a dark blue or black head covering.
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 01 (Note: I don't think the figure is meant to be fully nude but very similar in appearance to the clothing style worn by the famous "Oola") - https://i.imgur.com/ScsOETp.png
Oola's outfit Pic 1 - http://twilekparadise.com/wp-content/uploads/13.jpg
Oola's outfit Pic 2 - http://twilekparadise.com/wp-content/uploads/101.jpg
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 02 (Note: the outline of some sort of thin sheer body stocking being worn) - https://i.imgur.com/kpZOShR.png
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 03 (Note: a closeup of her leg) - https://i.imgur.com/rd6QuDq.png
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 04 (Note: closeup of her foot) - https://i.imgur.com/uQ19bA3.png
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 05 (Note: the whip the figure is holding) - https://i.imgur.com/ltdoFQR.png
Andrasta PROLOGUE screenshot upscaled frame 06 (Note: the decal artwork isn't present on the left side of the ship) - https://i.imgur.com/eSpJoL7.png
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- capitanguinea
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So many thanks Pal. Those will be very usefull